The superhero boom of the golden age of comics led to many a new superhero costume. In the case of The Sandman (Wesley Dodds) who had been more of a pulp hero it led to a bit of confusion. The Sandman ended up having the same costume as The Tarantula. This would be explained decades later in DC Comics All Star Squadron. Find out how these two ended up in the same purple and yellow costume here on Casually Comics!
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Which superhero has the best costume?
i love gasmask sandman he was green hornt and shadow all roll in one
3:10 "come see the weridies I've dreamed up for you" is the funniest line. it gives me the same vibes as "come peep the horror" from that jerma clip.
Id read the 90s sandman comic at library all the time, it gave me a love for the artstyle and the character. Even if he was always a little silly the Wesely Dodds Sandman was always my favorite for just how straightforward and goofy his premise is. Good memories.
I would guess since not every comic took off and because a Superman level success, they didn't mind letting two heroes try using the same solid costume design and letting the more successful selling hero keep it in the end.
That or they just didn't care about continuity. Casually changing the city and business Clark lived and worked in, changing if Green Lanturn is ONLY week to wood or if he's weak to other things back and forth between every issue as if the different writers are fighting about it. They didn't do proper author runs back then, every character had 3 or 4 authors writing their 4 to 5 stories every issue. It was continuity choas!
This video was super cool and interesting!!!
I would actually watch movie about 2 lesser heroes who wear similar or identical costumes and are arguing about it, and villains would mistake them constantly
A super suit is whatever the maker feels. Honestly the golden silver age had the best
That first issue with tarantula, i read it. It also has a captain X story with an editor or publisher whos initials are JJJ. If I remember correctly.
I definitely think there can be a problem with overexplaining weirdness in a franchise, like why the Klingons have a different look in TNG but there is the potential to have some fun with it.
I think in this instance the explanation is kind of fun.
Please, please talk about The Sandman, I did some digging a while back, and how it ties to the Gaiman Sandman, and it's SO interesting, please, you have to cover it
Another interesting thing about 1940s heroes, esp. when they were brought together in All Star Squadron, was how many of them were named John. Roy Thomas had to use as many variation as possible to distinguish John Law (as Jonathan Law) and Johnny Chambers a.k.a. Johnny Quick. John Zatara was renamed Giovanni Zatara in his origin.
7:43 That panel with Tarantula dangling upside down from the ceiling with his cape potentially becoming a nuisance would have been a good enough reason to ditch it.
Great video. I recall that issue of All Star Squadron well and it was a good explanation at the time. Keep up the great work.
I said it once, and again, the best costume of any superhero in the Golden Age belongs to The Black Terror.
The costumes were clearly something that bothered Roy Thomas, who is a huge fan of the golden age and comic history (he is after all.. a comic historian now and created the comic history magazine, Alter Ego and wrote an entire book/book series about the history of Marvel).
As for Spider-Man, it's pretty clear he was inspired by a number of Golden Age heroes (as much of early Marvel, especially the comics spearheaded by Stan Lee, borrowed heavily from earlier comics or other myths.. Like DareDevil being a clear nod to DareDevil/the Death Defying Devil or the Fantastic Four clearly borrowing from the Challengers of the Unknown, the Human Torch and.. the Human Torch. Angel and Angel..) That included Trantula, but also the Spider Queen.. another character Roy Thomas would bring back briefly in his Invaders run (his less satisfying Marvel attempt at All-Star Squadron).
After all these years, Vertigo's Sandman Mystery Theatre remains my favorite comic book series ever. Matt Wagner and Steven Seagle turned in tight, 3-5 "act" scripts that come across like film noir dramas. Clairvoyant nightmares drive night owl Wes Dodds toward murders being committed somewhere in New York City. Heir to a chemical company and skilled in the use of experimental drugs, Wes devises a gun that fires sleeping gas, and whose effects can tease the truth from drowsy victims before they pass into dreamland. Like Nick and Nora Charles of the Thin Man books and movies, Wes forms a terrific partnership with his romantic partner, mystery writer Dian Belmont — a much more interesting pairing than the Robin knockoff "Sandy" with whom he was paired with in the Golden Age stories. Wes and Dian alternate as narrators of SMT's mytery arcs — though the writerly Dian's prose is clearly better. They confront a variety of urban serial killers, whose crimes are bound up with US racism, homophobia, abortion, poverty, the looming Nazi threat, etc. And their paths cross with distinctly Vertigo versions of other Golden Age vigilantes, from the Blackhawk to the first Starman. Guy Davis turns out to be the perfect artist for this Depression-era drama, since he doesn't draw models or gym rats. His schlubby, Old-Hollywood characters look comfortable in loose, 1930s clothes. Primarily a page-turning mystery series, the series occasionally ventures into horror, and has plenty of time for fun banter between the leads. I've never seen anything else quite like it.
Sasha I have those All Star Squadron issues, I went with the " in cannon " explanation lol
I have arachnophobia and when you showed that tarantula picture, i jumped a little 😅
Great video.
Roy Thomas was probably the first comic fan who went pro, and he brought a fascination with continuity with him. He's the one who introduced the idea of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver being the children of Bob and Maddy Frank (Whizzer and Miss America). Ialways felt the worst thing Crisis on Infinite Earths did was derail his plans for All-Star Squadron.
5:20 he is going to have to revisit that name because that thing is not a tarantula
You should do the interesting history of Tex Thompson [or Thomson, spelled both ways] and his evolution from adventurer to costumed crimefighter to costume freedom fighter. He first appeared in Action Comics #1. I owned the Action Comics {#74} with his last appearance. Pretty cool ending last page.
Then he got retconned … a lot.
Another great episode. You didn't mention that Kirby's 70s Sandman was just on telly, but I guess that's a whole 'nother story.
You should do a video on Adam Warlock from the Guardians of the Galaxy.
He just called Diane Belmont a superhero groupie in that interview, didn't he?
I love that the original DC Trinity was Superman, Sandman and Zatara.
Justice League of America 113 (October 1974) revealed why Sandman switched back to the Pulp Costume in the 1960s. He was working on some high-tech weaponry that exploded and turned Sandy into a monster. He trapped Sandy in a sleep gas-filled chamber "The creature in the Velvet Cage."
Sandy wasnt restored until 1982 as a teenager and eventually joined the reformed JSA wearing a version of the Pulp Costume.
Neither hero had any reason to go purple-and-gold, really.
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Yes but they put the red hourglass
I’m making my way through the 90s sandman mystery theatre thanks to the new paperback release, it goes so hard
And now I would like an explanation for how Wesley Dodds had three different costumes in his early years of fighting crime due to Sandman Mystery Theater outfit, which is my favorite one. I really like Sandman Mystery Theater, but I hated the way it tried to dismiss parts of the lore like Sandman's original gold mask and green suit and Sandy.
Wesley Dodds had the first butler in comic books, Leslie Humphreys. Fellow only made a couple of appearances, but he was the perfect superhero butler.
Alright, last snark. If the original Dr. Midnite fought a Dr. Midnite evil clone, would the fightscene be 8 pages of "Whiff!" Silver-age panels and foley?
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I don't know whether there'd be enough material for a full video, but it would be interesting to hear you talk about Wesley Dodds' connection to the Morpheus/Dream version of Sandman. I've read that the latter was retconned to be responsible for the former's powers, so I'm curious to know more.
I like the way Roy (the Boy)(Marvel Bullpen nickname) Thomas writes Golden Age heroes. He really knows the era and what he doesn't, he would research it. I especially liked his All Star Squadron and Crimson Avenger series for DC Comics and The Invaders for Marvel Comics. I like Tarantula's costume from All Star Squadron # 66.